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The Hulk - Film clips and interviews with Director Ang Lee (Crouching tiger) and Stan Lee (Marvel Comics) as well as the actors and special effects crews responsible for the film.
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Stan Lee (Executive producer)
	Well Marvel Comics was only called Marvel Comics starting
	somewhere in the early 60's, like maybe 1963 or so.
	Before that it had been called 'Atlas Comics',
	before that it had a million names.
	The first name I remember, when I went to work for ther company at the age of seventeen
	I think it was in 1940, it was called Time-Lee comics.
	But the 1960's, the early sixties, that was the big time
	because that's when we came up with characters like the Fantastic Four,
	Spiderman, the X-Men, Daredevil, the Incredible Hulk, and all the other characters
	which are now thought of as the giants of the Marvel galaxy, you know.
	After having done the first of our Marvel line of books called the Fantastic Four.
	I was looking for something else that would be totally different,
	The Fantastic Four had the usual heroes you'd expect
	one of them could fly, one could turn invisible and so forth.
	So I was thinking - 'what could be really different'
	Then I remembered - I had always loved the old movie with Boris Karloff --
	Frankenstien !
	And it always seemed to me that the monster played by Karloff wasn't really the bad guy.
	He was the good guy. He didn't want to hurt anybody.
	It's just those idiots with torches kept running up and down the mountain,
	Chasing them and getting them angry.
	And I thought - 'Wouldn't it be fun to get a monster and make him the good guy'.
	Dr Jekyll and Mister Hyde, and Dr Jekyll was a normal man who turned into Mr Hyde.
	So I combined Jekyll and Hyde with Frankenstein.
	And I got myself the monster I wanted - who was really good, though nobody knew it.
	And he was also somebody who could change from a normal man, into the monster.
	And Lo - a legend was born.
Title Voiceover
	From director Ang Lee
Ang Lee (Director)
	It's that continuous persuing of that alter ego - the real you that's hiding in the dark.
	Err, the fate, the mystery - and also it's the enigmatic effort
	to put pop culture, pop art, with serious drama.
Larry Franco (Producer)
	It delivers big time for those people who are just coming
	to see an effect , cause it's also an event.
	I mean this, this guy does what they expect him to do.
	He's big , and he's green, and he's mad.
	And that's what they, the comic book people want to see. And he's there.
James Schamus (Screenwriter)
	For Ang and for myself, ah, where we went for inspiration
	was all the way back to the very very earliest renderings of Hulk and his story.
	Say the early 1960's, and we found there quite a rich vein to tap,
	of psychological and emotional back story that er
	that we eventually transform into something quite new
	but which we feel very confident represents the essence, the earliest essence of what the Hulk is.
Jennifer Connelly (Betty Ross)
	We're doing work with these Nanomeds, which are these little molecular machines
	And erm , an organism - we're doing experiments say on frogs
	And erm the organism inhales the little nanomeds
	and then is exposed as sort of a catalyst, to gamma radiation.
	And erm accidentally Bruce walks into the room where there's
	a complication with the machinery and he's trying to fix it,
	And erm he inhales the nanomeds and then is exposed to gamma radiation.
	Erm so he's then sorta subjected to the same experiment
	that we've been doing on our laboratory animals.
Ang Lee (Director)
	Well , the story is revolving urr on Bruce Banner
	who has an unhappy memory, a traumatic childhood experience
	And that he's a repressed character
	And Hulk is his history and his real character, and his mutation
	genetic mutation, err true self is hiding there waiting to leap out.
	So as the story moving forwards,
	err, we're revelaing the bad story about where that heritage come from,
	what's the scientific background, and why he's in that repressive relationship with his girlfriend Betty
	And then things start to enter in, both fathers, his father and Betty's father
	er come after him and seems like everybody wants the Hulk - haha.
	We own him, he starts to freak out, he's angry man and he becomes the Hulk.
Sam Elliot (General Ross)
	This movie can't just ride on the fact that it's the big green guy.
	there has to be a story, and there has to be other characters that move that all forward.
	And the big green guy is you know, not always just the big green guy -
	He's, you know he's Eric Banner, he's you know he's Bruce Banner.
	And Bruce Banner, Eric Bana is a hell of an actor and I had one really nice scene with him
	And you know, that was where I started, that was my first day's work.
	It was a great way to start on it, you know.
	Got a lot of respect for him as an actor.
Nick Nolte (David Banner)
	And the Hulk changes, because of alterations in his genes.
	But these are genes common to the human being.
	And rage causes him to change.
	And rage changes us, you know.
	It shoots adrenaline in us, our faces get red, we rage, you know.
	And erm,
	And that's human, that makes him human.
Ang Lee (Director)
	They made up this gamma bomb, with the explosion, I think
	the co-worker error, that was the coolest thing.
	And we're doing a contemporary piece, so we have to upgrade that.
	We stil reserve the gamma exposure, but the gamma is more of a control factor
	to their experiment on these nanomed, these little molecular machines
	that does the curing and everything.
	So it's the two put together that unleash what's in there.
James Schamus (Screenwriter)
	Well one of the things we do was that we coudn't have the Hulk without having gamma.
	You get - you gotta have gamma if you're going to have the Hulk.
	On the other hand, todays audiences are much more sophisticated
	about the science, and about the scientific history
	that goes into these kinds of characters and beings.
	And knows that if you're going to be blasted by a gamma bomb,
	you're probably not going to turn green.
	So we worked very hard to establish a scientific protocol
	that would enable us to come up with some rational,
	if not overwhelmingly convincing err explanation for how the Hulk emerges from Bruce.
	To enter into that border area where science equals myth.
Bruce Banner
	[ Gasping, shivering ]
Betty Ross
	My god -
	It must be the nanomeds, it must be the gamma exposure -
	but we've never seen any effect like this before.
Bruce Banner
	No, deeper - the gamma just unleashed what was already there.
Betty Ross
	Unleashed what ?
Bruce Banner
	Me.
	ssssss...
Betty Ross
	's okay
	shh it's okay.
	What were those animals ?
Bruce Banner
	My father sent them.
	He is my father.
	He wanted me to change. He wanted me to change into that mindless hulk.
	Why would he want that ?
Betty Ross
	Can you remember anything ?
	Is there anything from when you were changed ?
Bruce Banner
	It was like a dream.
Betty Ross
	About what ?
Bruce Banner
	Rage.
	Power.
	And freedom.
Ang Lee (Director)
	Err, it's unfulfilling one. I required it.
	Of course they love each other, we want them to have a happy ending
	but er, but it's a sad one.
	Ahm, they love each other but there's something about him
	that is all bottled up, cause if he shows any kind of excitement
	his body cannot take it, for survival he has to bottle it up.
	So its a poignant kind of relationship
	She has some kind of understanding, although she doesn't know why.
	And as a scientist herself, they're both scientists.
	Err so both her love relationship and her scientific goal is to discover what's inside of the Hulk.
	Er so that's what they do, that's why they have to struggle through.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	Well his name is Bruce Banner, most of the time.
	And he's a err somewhat confused individual.
	He erm on the surface is a er scientist and that kind of thing but
	underneath there's a dark past that he is kind of aware of it being there
	but isn't completely in touch with what has occurred and why and so forth.
	But he just has a lot of kind of nightmares, he has a lot of flashbacks and things like that
	but they're very very vague.
	And Betty Ross, is infatuated I think with the notion of trying to solve all the mysteries in Bruce's head.
	So during the film, I guess in some ways there is a bit of a journey,
	there's a bit of a process where Bruce is trying to get in touch with that side
	knowingly or unknowingly, and things occur, and obviously as the movie progresses
	he gets closer and closer to discovering these dark secrets and these repressed memories.
David Banner
	You have an extraordinary mind.
	It's been seeking, all these years.
	It's been inside you. Now, we will understand it.
	We will harness it.
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	[ Phone rings ]
David Banner
	No, don't answer it. It's Mr Ross again.
	There's something you need to know about her Bruce - something troublesome.
	Let me protect you from her.
Bruce Banner
	No.
	Get out.
	Get OUT !
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	[ Barking / growling ]
David Banner
	Sit !
	We're gonna have to watch that temper of yours.
Nick Nolte (David Banner)
	And then he came to my house, and he said 'Now then' he said,
	'Look, I don't know how to make a comic book, btu I do know how to make a Greek tragedy'.
	And, he had me hooked right there.
	Because it involves heroic emotions, and big emotions, and err
	But it's based in reality on the human experience.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	It was obviously because I just knew whatever Ang was going to do
	was gong to be almost entirely different to what anybody elses approach was going to be.
	So I knew that it would be unpredictable, and I knew that it would give the audience
	ahm, an element that was going to be completely different
	and as a consumer myself, that interests me, and I knew that it would be fun to be involved
	in a project where people could be delivered with something a little bit unexpected.
Nick Nolte (David Banner)
	With err Ang Lee at the helm, er who was going to push the limits of it
	Erm, you have to go for the ride.
	And the character I had with my son,
	that relationship is a primary father-son relationship.
	That goes to the absolute worst it can go.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	Thi, this was a very surreal experience for me cause Nick is
	Nick and Sam are quite literally two of my all time favourite actors.
	And there were times where I was doing stuff with these guys
	where I would literally fly above myself and look down and
	feel very very very priveleged.
	And not only just getting to do work with these guys but,
	There's stuff that Nick is doing in this film
	that is probably amongst the best that he's ever done in his career.
	And to be opposite him at those moments is, you know it's a blessing, it really is.
	It's extremely special and something that I'll never forget.
Ang Lee (Director)
	Nick Nolte's a blast.
	I had one of the best time in my career working with that actor.
	Uh, that was with Nick.
Jennifer Connelly (Betty Ross)
	The characters and the relationships are really interesting.
	And when I talk to Ang, he really wanted to -
	I mean, what he expressed to me was
	That he really wanted to make this a sort of psychological drama.
	Erm and really explore the relationships within the families.
	You know between Bruce and his father and Betty Ross and her father.
	And their relationship and erm. So it's , it's really interesting the sort of er
	sort of erm um juxtaposition of these really human characters
	struggling to work out their relationships with one another.
	and the sort of comic book element of this guy goes green and sort of fantastical and larger than life.
Sam Elliot (General Ross)
	Ang talked to me at one point about
	the struggle that's within the Hulk as being the same struggle that's within General Ross.
	Because he's frustrated, as B, as the Hulk as Banner is frustrated
	by the situation he finds himself in.
	From Ross's perspective, he's in this powerful position
	he's worked up through the ranks, you know, served in the military, been in the field
	And did it all, you know, and he's you know become a four star general and he's
	He's running this desert base and now he's like seeing his power or his control slip away
	because of these outside contractors, these private contractors who' ve come in.
Nick Nolte (David Banner)
	All the actors would bring it, and they're - we worked as an ensemble.
	An er our director was a constant leader.
	And he challenged us, and he challenged us with the unknown.
Gale Ann Hurd (Producer)
	Nick Nolte I think is one of the best actors of his generation.
	When he's on screen, you gravitate towards him. He's a star.
	And we're lucky because I think we have a cast full of stars.
	Erm, he holds his own with anyone, in fact when he's in any movie,
	Any scene in any movie, he elevates it.
	And that's of course what he brought to this film.
	I mean, he plays er he plays a character that erm, that through the course of the movie
	We come to find out what his significance is.
Glenn Talbot
	You and I have never had the chance to get to know each other properly.
David Banner
	Well that's because I don't want to get to know you.
	Properly, or improperly.
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	[ Pager bleeping ]
David Banner
	So, leave.
Glenn Talbot
	Hey, no worries.
	You know, let me give you a little heads-up.
	There is a hairs breadth between friendly offer and hostile takeover.
	I've done my homework - the work you're doing here is dynamite.
	Think - GI's embedded with technology that makes them instantly repairable
	on the battefield, in our sole possession.
	That's a hell of a business.
David Banner
	Well, it's not what we're doing here.
	We're doing the basic science, for everyone.
Glenn Talbot
	You know, some day I'm gonna write a book.
	And I'm going to call it 'When stupid ideals happen to smart penniless scientists'
	In the meantime Bruce, you will be hearing fom me.
Avi Arad (Producer)
	Hulk was so interesting because it is the ultimate psychodrama.
	Here you have these incredible powers, one you cannot control.
	And two, Bruce himself just being the decent man he is.
	He's so worried about what is he going to do when he Hulks out ?
	It's not at will, and it's basically - unlike us, once it happens
	he feels guilty for everything that happens around him.
	So it's really a deep, complex persona, hence we got Ang Lee.
	Dealing with this persona it's something that was very attractive to him.
	To try and understand, how does - forget the outside for a second.
	How do you become Hulk inside, what does it mean ?
	And as usual it means it all starts in our childhood,
	things that affect our lives.
	And this movie's going to explain in detail
	How does one become the Hulk ?
Ang Lee (Director)
	So I always thought, it's a good thing to use rage as a catalyst.
	Not as our goal.
	It's a phenomenon, it's a catalyst to unleash erm what's inside there.
	And in doing so I think we open up a whole lot of possibilities
	than just smashing things, its unleash of true emotion.
	Which is a higher state, more dramatic, more interesting to the audience.
James Schamus (Screenwriter)
	Our Bruce Banner, aside from being embodied in a guy who is good looking
	and charismatic as Eric Bana, erm
	Is somebody who doesn't know who he is.
	And has tried desperately not to even know that he doesn't know that.
	Uh, so it's a double repression, not only is he repressed, he doesn't wanna know he's repressed.
	When finally the truth comes out
	It obviously comes out in the form of something very large, very angry and very green
	And there you have to , especially in the writing stages,
	Simply imagine as best you can what all the wizardry of people like Ang Lee
	and Industrial light and magic are going to finally bring to the screen.
	And you have to believe that that work is going to carry forward
	an emotional resonance that you found in the story.
Larry Franco (Producer)
	His whole take on it was the inner struggle between the Hulk and Bruce Banner.
	And I think most people are wondering - why would Ang Lee want to do a project like this ?
	But just in one sentence, when he says 'I'm interested in the struggle'
	'between Bruce Banner and the hulk', you all of a sudden start to get where he was coming from.
	And it's a deep emotional story about this guy who definitely has some problems
	from the past and is trying to work through them
	and erm, Ang's take was definitely just on that
	It wasn't about Hulk-smash and we're gonna rip up the town
	And 'this is this big', this was about a little story about a guy.
	Instead of a big huge monster movie about somebody who's gonna rip up the town.
	So it was an intriguing inner view as opposed to a big view of it.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	Hopefully it takes many viewings like all good films
	to pick up every single thing that the director is playing with.
	And I think, I think that the themes and ideas of this film are so large,
	that it's not something that you watch once, and get everything.
	I think it's gonna be one of those movies that you watch , and you're completely blown away
	And you're gonna have to come back to it again.
	And you're maybe going to wanna come back to it when you're at a different stage in your life
	To see how it affects you on a different pass.
	Erm, and I hope it can do that, because there ar very few films
	that can have such an emotional response.
Jennifer Connelly (Betty Ross)
	It's so remarkable I think , the way he looks at the world.
	You know, a really lyrical sensibility.
	So I think it's impossible to extricate that from, you know, from
	the way he'll pull this film off.
Betty Ross
	He seems to think he's involved in some kind of threat to national security.
David Banner
	Your father, Ross, you brought your father down upon his head.
	How little you understand Miss Ross.
	And how dangerous your ignorance has become.
Betty Ross
	I'm sorry ?
David Banner
	Don't be sorry.
	My son is ... unique.
	That's why you can't relate to him.
	And because he is unique, the world will not tolerate his existence, will they ?
	But - you ...
	You tried.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	Because I knew Ang was going to direct,
	I almost didn't dare come up with my own vision of what it may be,
	I just went in with my eyes wide open.
	Erm because I knew that er whatever it is,
	that he was going to add was going to be incredibly deep.
	And probably way beyond my own wildest imagination, which it turned out to be so.
Josh Lucas (Glenn Talbot)
	He sees things that, I don't see.
	That's the main thing.
	And that's the first time I've really had that experience with a director,
	who, you sit there and watch, and when you're watching the monitor
	everyone's kind of watching, everyone's like 'Wow, that looks great'
	And Ang is kind of just sitting there in this very, well,
	I would say the first thing is his ability to be absolutely gracious.
	Soft spoken and gentle with every single human being,
	but at the same time, totally uncompromising in what he is liking or disliking.
	Erm , that's a phenomenal ability for a director cause that's entirely rare
	Because oftentimes its so much about having to exude this confidence
	and power that you're in control - and none of that exists within him.
Avi Arad (Producer)
	Ang is the perfect - we believe that directors have a piece of them, in their movie.
	And I think that a gentle giant, on one hand
	the determination, the intelligence on the other.
	And the depth. And if you look at Ang's movies,
	there is these father-son relationships
	And inventing action.
	And when you look, and you say 'Ang Lee' - you think about
	Depth, character, cerebral, yet you go and see Ride with the Devil, and Crouching Tiger
	The man love action.
	has great sense of humour.
	And, and you see all of the above in this movie.
Dennis Mueren (Visual effects)
	But to have a director here is really great, and it's very important on this film
	because essentially directing the star of the movie you know,
	one of the principals of the film, The Hulk,
	needs to be directed by the director, not by anybody else.
	And it's just like a director, you know - you ask for a performance
	and you refine it and refine it, and you react to it
	and you change it, and you get the scene you want,
	whether it's Eric or Jennifer or Nick or whatever
	and he's doing it in this case with us.
	And there's no other way to do it.
Eric Bana (Bruce Banner)
	He's very special, you know.
	There's no other word for it, and that's why so many people are interested in this film.
	And it's why so many people will go and see the film, I'm sure -
	it's because they're expecting something they can't quite envisage themselves.
	And they're going to get that.
James Schamus (Screenwriter)
	We knew Eric Bana from a film that he'd made in Australia
	really his first film, called Chopper, where he plays
	a very charming, very attractive, very sick serial killer.
	And er the performance was just a work of genius.
	Of course what we didn't know was that Eric had been a stand up comedian.
	And the reason that he was cast for his first role as a serial killer
	was of course the serial killer himself, in real life - cause it's based on a real guy -
	was sitting in prison watching him on TV,
	knew there was going to be a film made about him,
	and called the producers and said 'Oh, I've got the guy for you - you've gotta cast Eric Bana.
	Hah - and that's actually how Eric got the role.
	His, his big break as an actor. Ahm -
	Once you see a performance like that you know that your actor is capable of just about anything.
	And certainly Eric has both this physicality
	as well as what's going on upstairs and inside to pull off the role.
Glenn Talbot
	Bingo - that must be some jungle nigtmare he just had.
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